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	<title>Comments on: Cormac McCarthy &#8211; The Road</title>
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	<description>Languages, literature and the pursuit of dreams</description>
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		<title>By: Olle Linge - Life, literature and the pursuit of dreams &#183; 26 years and counting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olle Linge - Life, literature and the pursuit of dreams &#183; 26 years and counting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (out of 61 in all) China Miéville – The City &amp; the City Mark Lynas – Six Degrees Cormac McCarthy – The Road Tove Jansson – Vem ska trösta knyttet? and Sent i november The Umbrella Academy &#8211; The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (out of 61 in all) China Miéville – The City &amp; the City Mark Lynas – Six Degrees Cormac McCarthy – The Road Tove Jansson – Vem ska trösta knyttet? and Sent i november The Umbrella Academy &#8211; The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Olle Linge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olle Linge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. The book is so good it&#039;s impossible for a movie to destroy my impressions of it. It&#039;s not super high priority, but I will watch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. The book is so good it&#8217;s impossible for a movie to destroy my impressions of it. It&#8217;s not super high priority, but I will watch it.</p>
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		<title>By: Xhakhal</title>
		<link>http://www.snigel.nu/?p=5811&#038;cpage=1#comment-69426</link>
		<dc:creator>Xhakhal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering, are you planning on watching this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_(film)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering, are you planning on watching this?<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_(film)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_(film)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Olle Linge - Life, literature and the pursuit of dreams &#183; Cormac McCarthy &#8211; All the Pretty Horses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olle Linge - Life, literature and the pursuit of dreams &#183; Cormac McCarthy &#8211; All the Pretty Horses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I can without any doubt say that he really is a skilled author. As was clearly seen in both The Road and No Country for Old Men he knows how to use the English language is a simplistic and yet highly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I can without any doubt say that he really is a skilled author. As was clearly seen in both The Road and No Country for Old Men he knows how to use the English language is a simplistic and yet highly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Svante</title>
		<link>http://www.snigel.nu/?p=5811&#038;cpage=1#comment-67634</link>
		<dc:creator>Svante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several kinds of definitions of science fiction. Being both lazy and currently in a hurry, I quote from my master&#039;s thesis (in Swedish):

&quot;tre definitionsförslag, som tar fasta på olika karaktäristiska drag hos genren och som till-sammans kan ge åtminstone någon sorts heltäckande bild. 
Det första är den novologiska definitionen, som karaktäriserar science fiction-genrens fik-tionsvärld genom att där finns en nova, den avgörande punkt baserad på någorlunda trovärdig teknisk eller naturvetenskaplig spekulation på vilken världen skiljer sig från vår. Detta berör alltså enbart innehållsliga drag. För att fånga in kontinuiteten och den fokusering vid mönster och klichéer som är vanligt förekommande, i alla fall i värderande sammanhang när genren kritiseras, finns den megatextuella definitionen: science fiction är en typ av litteratur där no-vorna (enligt ovan) tas ur ett förråd av teman, miljöer och situationer som kännetecknar gen-ren, till exempel robotar, rymdskepp, utomjordingar, tidsmaskiner och så vidare. Detta är vad många science fiction-fans tänker på när de diskuterar vad som tillhör genren. Det är dock inget användbart kriterium för att skilja genren från angränsande genrer. Båda dessa definitio-ner bygger enbart på tematiska drag, men genrebegreppet är så mycket vidare än så. Mycket hänger på paratextuella element som undertitlar, förlagstillhörighet, recensioner och så vidare. Den paratextuella definitionen försöker innefatta det här: den beskriver science fiction som en marknadskategori, identifierbar genom paratextuella genremarkörer av olika slag samt genom distribution i de populära kretsloppen och en i övrigt låg status inom det litterära fältet.&quot;

What can this say of The Road? I don&#039;t really know. First, I thought the post-apocalyptic stuff wasn&#039;t prominent enough, but I&#039;m not sure now. It might as well be science fiction by most standards. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several kinds of definitions of science fiction. Being both lazy and currently in a hurry, I quote from my master&#8217;s thesis (in Swedish):</p>
<p>&#8220;tre definitionsförslag, som tar fasta på olika karaktäristiska drag hos genren och som till-sammans kan ge åtminstone någon sorts heltäckande bild.<br />
Det första är den novologiska definitionen, som karaktäriserar science fiction-genrens fik-tionsvärld genom att där finns en nova, den avgörande punkt baserad på någorlunda trovärdig teknisk eller naturvetenskaplig spekulation på vilken världen skiljer sig från vår. Detta berör alltså enbart innehållsliga drag. För att fånga in kontinuiteten och den fokusering vid mönster och klichéer som är vanligt förekommande, i alla fall i värderande sammanhang när genren kritiseras, finns den megatextuella definitionen: science fiction är en typ av litteratur där no-vorna (enligt ovan) tas ur ett förråd av teman, miljöer och situationer som kännetecknar gen-ren, till exempel robotar, rymdskepp, utomjordingar, tidsmaskiner och så vidare. Detta är vad många science fiction-fans tänker på när de diskuterar vad som tillhör genren. Det är dock inget användbart kriterium för att skilja genren från angränsande genrer. Båda dessa definitio-ner bygger enbart på tematiska drag, men genrebegreppet är så mycket vidare än så. Mycket hänger på paratextuella element som undertitlar, förlagstillhörighet, recensioner och så vidare. Den paratextuella definitionen försöker innefatta det här: den beskriver science fiction som en marknadskategori, identifierbar genom paratextuella genremarkörer av olika slag samt genom distribution i de populära kretsloppen och en i övrigt låg status inom det litterära fältet.&#8221;</p>
<p>What can this say of The Road? I don&#8217;t really know. First, I thought the post-apocalyptic stuff wasn&#8217;t prominent enough, but I&#8217;m not sure now. It might as well be science fiction by most standards. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Olle Linge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olle Linge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding other books by McCarthy, I enjoyed No Country for Old Men, but it&#039;s still pretty far from being as good as this one. I&#039;m currently halfway through All the Pretty Horses, but I can&#039;t say I like it very much, so if you find something nice, please let me know. :)

Regarding science fiction, it of course depends on how you define the term. Once upon a time, I used a definition that stated that science (although not necessarily natural science and thus technology), or the derivatives thereof, should be in focus, but since nobody else uses that definition, I&#039;ve simply tried to go more mainstream, which usually means that if it&#039;s the future or alternative history, it can be categorised as science fiction. It isn&#039;t a very good definition, but that&#039;s the one I think is the most common. In that case, The Road is definitely science fiction.

I could probably argue in favour of classifying it at science fiction according to my old definition as well, since the focus of the novel is on exploring life in an hypothetical future with a constructed social system. The only thing that argues against that is that it&#039;s obvious that McCarthy is more interested in the two main characters than in the setting, other characters and whatever society still survives in the ruins.

Well, that became a little bit longer than I intended, but there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding other books by McCarthy, I enjoyed No Country for Old Men, but it&#8217;s still pretty far from being as good as this one. I&#8217;m currently halfway through All the Pretty Horses, but I can&#8217;t say I like it very much, so if you find something nice, please let me know. :)</p>
<p>Regarding science fiction, it of course depends on how you define the term. Once upon a time, I used a definition that stated that science (although not necessarily natural science and thus technology), or the derivatives thereof, should be in focus, but since nobody else uses that definition, I&#8217;ve simply tried to go more mainstream, which usually means that if it&#8217;s the future or alternative history, it can be categorised as science fiction. It isn&#8217;t a very good definition, but that&#8217;s the one I think is the most common. In that case, The Road is definitely science fiction.</p>
<p>I could probably argue in favour of classifying it at science fiction according to my old definition as well, since the focus of the novel is on exploring life in an hypothetical future with a constructed social system. The only thing that argues against that is that it&#8217;s obvious that McCarthy is more interested in the two main characters than in the setting, other characters and whatever society still survives in the ruins.</p>
<p>Well, that became a little bit longer than I intended, but there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Svante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not even sure I would consider the book science fiction. It lacks too many of the genre tropes. That is a good thing, of course; I wouldn&#039;t hesistate to recommend The Road even to people who despise SF. This is just fiction, and brilliantly woven fiction at that.

I wholeheartedly agree with your five snails, and I&#039;m reminded that I really should pick up some other book by McCarthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even sure I would consider the book science fiction. It lacks too many of the genre tropes. That is a good thing, of course; I wouldn&#8217;t hesistate to recommend The Road even to people who despise SF. This is just fiction, and brilliantly woven fiction at that.</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree with your five snails, and I&#8217;m reminded that I really should pick up some other book by McCarthy.</p>
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