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All new words from Short-term Spoken Chinese for ZDT

2008-05-09

Important: This post is mostly obsolete. I no longer use ZDT and I see no reason that you should either. The words for these books are now available from within Anki, a program I think far superior to ZDT. The old lists will remain here, of course, but they won’t be updated.

I have now assembled all new words from the first three volumes of Short-term Spoken Chinese into two ZDT backup files ready to be imported for revision and reference. The volumes covered are for the second editions of Short-term Spoken Chinese: Threshold/Hanyu kouyu sucheng: rumen (汉语口语速成入门) and Short-term Spoken Chinese: Elementary/Hanyu kouyu sucheng: jichu (汉语口语速成基础). Please note that these word lists contain all words necessary to understand the texts, which means that they contain more that do the lists in the books. Up to and including chapter 12 also cover new words in the grammar sections as well.

I take no responsibility whatsoever that these lists of words are correct, but I highly doubt that there are many errors, since I have used them to revise for my own exams. However, should you find anything wrong, please let me know so that I can correct the mistake.

The translations were made in many different ways. If applicable, the included “CEDICT” was used. If not applicable, I have used the excellent online dictionary Dict.cn. In rare cases when all else has failed, I have translated my teachers Swedish translations into English.

Please note that proper names are put in a separate category for Short-term Spoken Chinese: Elementary/Hanyu kouyu sucheng: jichu.

Words from Threshold/rumen (71K)
Words from Elementary/jichu (86K)

Update: The word lists have been moved, but the links should now be working properly again.

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  1. Kang Wei’s avatar

    Kang Wei on 2008-05-13 at 14:06

    Hi Ollie,

    I am in Taiwan on Huayu Enrichment Scholarship. I was looking at your posts and noticed that you are studying Simplified characters. Taiwan uses traditional characters. It’s a pain I know. Also you should study Zhuyin (Bopomofo). That’s all bye!

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  2. Olle Linge’s avatar

    Olle Linge on 2008-05-13 at 16:50

    How interesting to hear from you! Naturally, I know about traditional characters and I will do my best during this summer to convert what I have learnt so far into traditional Chinese. I shall have to look into Zhuyin. I have been accepted to Zhong Hua Da Xue in Xinzhu and I will send them an e-mail to inquire if I should prepare anything in particular.

    Is there anything else you think I should prepare for? I have a descent amount of time to study this summer, if I think it is important enough.

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  3. Glen’s avatar

    Glen on 2008-08-08 at 08:37

    Thanks for doing this! But which program do I open it with? I tried Word and it was messy.

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  4. Olle Linge’s avatar

    Olle Linge on 2008-08-08 at 09:43

    As the title of this entry indicates, this is the new words for Short-Term Spoken Chinese for ZDT (Zhongwen Development Tool). They will look pretty messy in any other program, but you should be able to open them in ZDT and then export them to pure text if that is what you want.

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  5. jrc’s avatar

    jrc on 2008-08-15 at 07:48

    Hi – thank you so much for doing this!
    I have tried to import it into ZDT, but the characters do not appear.
    Please advise if there is something special I need to do to make them show?
    I have successfully imported other word lists to ZDT without problem.
    Thanks again, what a great resource!

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  6. Olle Linge’s avatar

    Olle Linge on 2008-08-15 at 10:00

    The only problem I know of is people trying to use the import function. The lists are made using the backup function in ZDT, which means that you should use the restore data function to retieve the words. If this still does not work, I am clueless. It has worked for everybody in my class and on various computers and operating system. Good luck!

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  7. jrc’s avatar

    jrc on 2008-08-15 at 18:37

    ?? for the quick reply… will keep trying!

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  8. Olle Linge’s avatar

    Olle Linge on 2008-08-16 at 03:31

    No problems. Please let me know if the problem persists; I might not be able to help you, but I would still like to know. If you find a way to may it work I would also like to know what was wrong! Good luck again.

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  9. Nick Costello’s avatar

    Nick Costello on 2009-09-04 at 15:46

    I just tried to download your lists, but I get a broken link – have they moved? I hope I can get them since it sounds perfect for what I need.

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    1. Olle Linge’s avatar

      Olle Linge on 2009-09-04 at 16:09

      Yes, since I updated my Chinese section, I also restructured the folder system a bit on the server and forgot to update this post. The links should be working again now. Good luck and tell me if anything is still wrong!

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    2. ratatuille’s avatar

      ratatuille on 2009-09-15 at 22:35

      Thank you for your contribution!
      It is really very appreciated!!
      Wish you a good time in China!

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    3. Troels’s avatar

      Troels on 2010-05-09 at 07:43

      Hey Olle,
      thanks for the big effort you put into assembling the word lists and uploading them! I imported the word lists into ZDT without any problems. However, there is apparently no possibility of printing the cards from ZDT so it seems that the only option to print the cards is to copy the entries from ZDT to a predefined table in Microsoft Word (please correct me if I’m wrong!). But apparently the vocabulary from Short Term Spoken Chinese is not organized with reference to the lessons the words appear in – and figuring out which word belongs to what lesson and then typing it manually in Word will be a pain with more than 1500 words in the vocabulary. So I was hoping that you had any thoughts / help to offer regarding that issue. Thanks, buddy!

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      1. Olle Linge’s avatar

        Olle Linge on 2010-05-10 at 03:44

        I think you must be missing something. I just checked the file and the words are sorted into chapters, with a proper heading before each chapter. I don’t really understand the problem here.

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      2. Troels’s avatar

        Troels on 2010-05-10 at 06:18

        Hey,
        thanks for your answer. That’s pretty odd; I’m using ZDT version 7 and the words only appear in one long list of around 1500 characters with ‘Characters – Pinyin – Definition’ and no apparent subdivision into chapters. I AM new to ZDT but I think I looked everything through and didn’t come up with a solution. Is it possible to open your STSC wordlist with other software than ZDT to copy into a programme like Word manually? And have you been able to print your wordlist as flashcards? Thanks for your time. I’ll buy you a beer some day!

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      3. Olle Linge’s avatar

        Olle Linge on 2010-05-10 at 16:36

        I don’t use ZDT anymore, and I don’t have time to install in now just to check. I opened the files in a normal text editor and the chapter heading are included. This would probably be the easiest way to do it. If you’re interested, this is what I use instead of ZDT: http://www.snigel.nu/?p=6283

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      4. Peter’s avatar

        Peter on 2010-08-03 at 20:43

        Hi Olle,
        I just downloaded Anki but I’m going to have to figure out how to use it. Do you have cards that I can use with this program from Short-Term Spoken English 2nd Edition Threshold Vol.1?

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        1. Olle Linge’s avatar

          Olle Linge on 2010-08-03 at 23:00

          Hi!

          No, I’m afraid I don’t, since it was years and years ago I used that series. However, it’s fairly easy to convert the ZDT format to a format that is possible to import into Anki. I converted about 7000 words this way and it wasn’t that difficult. You need to edit the file so as to match a format Anki can recognise, although I don’t remember anymore exactly what I did.

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        2. Peter’s avatar

          Peter on 2010-08-05 at 10:54

          Hi Olle,
          rather than try to figure out how to convert, I just downloaded ZDT and the threshold backup file you created. It’s working great, but I have a question. There are 214 characters in the Radicals category, so when I try to do the Radicals as flash cards, it seems overwhelming.

          I thought maybe I could learn the first 20 on the list and then start on the next 20 and so on, but I can’t figure out how to do this with flashcards; it seems flashcards are always random : (

          I know you don’t use ZDT anymore, but do you have any advice for me.

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        3. Peter’s avatar

          Peter on 2010-08-05 at 13:27

          Nevermind, I figured out how to export a category, modify the text file, and then import it as a new category. Thanks so much for creating the file for this textbook!

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          1. Olle Linge’s avatar

            Olle Linge on 2010-08-05 at 23:56

            I’m happy to hear that you’ve found a solution. However, even if you already know this, I would strongly suggest moving to Anki. It has so many advantages over ZDT that I see no reason whatsoever to use ZDT anymore. In Anki, you can for instance limit the number of new characters you get or put flashcards on hold. Anki is more versatile in general and I have found nothing ZDT can do that Anki doesn’t do better!

            I wrote more about it here: http://www.snigel.nu/?p=6283

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